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Lement: /* My Monster Lab monsters: */

2012-11-05T14:41:44Z

My Monster Lab monsters:

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	10 25 Reptile Snake of Eden		10 25 Reptile Snake of Eden

			11 25 Giant Baliir

			12 25 Daimon Khaless Sharen

			13 25 Undead Xyphos Celestin

			14 25 Dragon Simo Hayha(yes, I'm aware he may be more fitting as some other monster class. I'll see about it when I get to leveling him)

	== tl; dr ==		== tl; dr ==

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2012-10-26T18:44:36Z

Low levels

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	A: Hourly battles or random encounters are [You have encountered a monster!] links instead of ads on the main page and galleries - to fight just click on the link. Every one occurs at least one hour after the last one, so you might want to get a timer plugin or script for them to remind you. They have vastly increased drop chances and EXP modifier, so one should play them at highest difficulty possible when wanting XP, spending as many pots as it takes.		A: Hourly battles or random encounters are [You have encountered a monster!] links instead of ads on the main page and galleries - to fight just click on the link. Every one occurs at least one hour after the last one, so you might want to get a timer plugin or script for them to remind you. They have vastly increased drop chances and EXP modifier, so one should play them at highest difficulty possible when wanting XP, spending as many pots as it takes.

	~~'''~~Choosing your build~~'''~~		====Choosing your build====
	Along the way, don't forget to assign the XP points you get to your stats and ability points to your ability tree.Their assignment depends on which		Along the way, don't forget to assign the XP points you get to your stats and ability points to your ability tree.Their assignment depends on which
	you play as, but since you're powerleveling from get-go, don't worry about proficiencies. Do note that mage is fast, but has than less than half the survivability as melee at high difficulties until much later when choosing which to play when. You lack XP, AP and gear so it'd be better to focus on either melee or mage, but they both have their advantages. At high levels, you can play both as melee and mage due exp points requirement going up exponentially.		you play as, but since you're powerleveling from get-go, don't worry about proficiencies. Do note that mage is fast, but has than less than half the survivability as melee at high difficulties until much later when choosing which to play when. You lack XP, AP and gear so it'd be better to focus on either melee or mage, but they both have their advantages. At high levels, you can play both as melee and mage due exp points requirement going up exponentially.
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	For Chaos tokens that you get, create unnamed monsters one by one and assign to them only the crystals that naturally drop - you don't want to spend credits on them at this point in time.		For Chaos tokens that you get, create unnamed monsters one by one and assign to them only the crystals that naturally drop - you don't want to spend credits on them at this point in time.

	~~'''~~Abilities~~'''~~		====Abilities====

	For assigning Ability points: Both mage and melee should grab Haste, Shadow Veil, all the item slots, all the aura slots, focused aura, Cure, regen, scroll slots, X-item and X-attack. Both could use 5 AP in weaken at times, which is all or nothing but reduces incoming damage from the monster by over 50% when maxed, is fast and is cheapest debuff too. Then comes their type-specific abilities and then both should also max their MP tanks after that, and have about 5 maxed HP tanks.		For assigning Ability points: Both mage and melee should grab Haste, Shadow Veil, all the item slots, all the aura slots, focused aura, Cure, regen, scroll slots, X-item and X-attack. Both could use 5 AP in weaken at times, which is all or nothing but reduces incoming damage from the monster by over 50% when maxed, is fast and is cheapest debuff too. Then comes their type-specific abilities and then both should also max their MP tanks after that, and have about 5 maxed HP tanks.

	~~'''~~Hitting 100 and defeating the Ultimates for cash in Ring~~'''~~		====Hitting 100 and defeating the Ultimates for cash in Ring====

	Check if you have 3 blood tokens and use some of the money you have gathered to get together with what you have about 40 Scrolls of Swiftness and 9 scrolls of life. Reassign your Ability tree to remove XP tanks and reassign your stats to be more balanced. Make sure you have at least 90 agility, 80 str, 70 dex and take either your best ethereal 1h weapon or buy one if they all suck, equip a shield of the battlecaster in off-hand and wear your best gossamer of the curse-weaver or thrice-blessed/spirit-weaver gear for bad gossamer pieces, make sure you have difficulty set on normal and scroll slots containing Scroll of Swiftness and Scroll of Life.		Check if you have 3 blood tokens and use some of the money you have gathered to get together with what you have about 40 Scrolls of Swiftness and 9 scrolls of life. Reassign your Ability tree to remove XP tanks and reassign your stats to be more balanced. Make sure you have at least 90 agility, 80 str, 70 dex and take either your best ethereal 1h weapon or buy one if they all suck, equip a shield of the battlecaster in off-hand and wear your best gossamer of the curse-weaver or thrice-blessed/spirit-weaver gear for bad gossamer pieces, make sure you have difficulty set on normal and scroll slots containing Scroll of Swiftness and Scroll of Life.

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2012-10-26T18:35:09Z

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	=== Low levels ===		=== Low levels ===
	(this is purely practical advice)		(this is purely practical advice, not for game enjoyment)

	1st priority: grab free gear from WTS forum.		1st priority: grab free gear from WTS forum.

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2012-10-26T18:34:51Z

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	(this is purely practical advice)		(this is purely practical advice)
	1st priority: grab free gear from WTS forum.		1st priority: grab free gear from WTS forum.

	2nd priority: Fight hourly battles on the highest difficulty you can,		2nd priority: Fight hourly battles on the highest difficulty you can,
	3rd priority: Do your daily arenas, once again, on the highest difficulty you can. Find the lowest PXP Crude you can and spend the rest of the time fighting in it's Item World at highest comfortable difficulty(good place to test out stuff and proficiency grind, too) to gather XP fastest.
			3rd priority: Do your daily arenas, once again, on the highest difficulty you can.

			4th priority: Find the lowest PXP Crude you can and spend the rest of the time fighting in it's Item World at highest comfortable difficulty(good place to test out stuff and proficiency grind, too) to gather XP fastest.

	Do this until you're about level 90 or 100(holy mages and melees& and other mages). )After every hourly, set up adept leaner(Bazaar>Trainer) to train another level if you don't have preexisting training. Outside hourlies, don't deliberate your every move, a turn shouldn't last more than 2 seconds.		Do this until you're about level 90 or 100(holy mages and melees& and other mages). )After every hourly, set up adept leaner(Bazaar>Trainer) to train another level if you don't have preexisting training. Outside hourlies, don't deliberate your every move, a turn shouldn't last more than 2 seconds.
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	A: Hourly battles or random encounters are [You have encountered a monster!] links instead of ads on the main page and galleries - to fight just click on the link. Every one occurs at least one hour after the last one, so you might want to get a timer plugin or script for them to remind you. They have vastly increased drop chances and EXP modifier, so one should play them at highest difficulty possible when wanting XP, spending as many pots as it takes.		A: Hourly battles or random encounters are [You have encountered a monster!] links instead of ads on the main page and galleries - to fight just click on the link. Every one occurs at least one hour after the last one, so you might want to get a timer plugin or script for them to remind you. They have vastly increased drop chances and EXP modifier, so one should play them at highest difficulty possible when wanting XP, spending as many pots as it takes.

	'''Choosing your build''''		'''Choosing your build'''
	Along the way, don't forget to assign the XP points you get to your stats and ability points to your ability tree.Their assignment depends on which		Along the way, don't forget to assign the XP points you get to your stats and ability points to your ability tree.Their assignment depends on which
	you play as, but since you're powerleveling from get-go, don't worry about proficiencies. Do note that mage is fast, but has than less than half the survivability as melee at high difficulties until much later when choosing which to play when. You lack XP, AP and gear so it'd be better to focus on either melee or mage, but they both have their advantages. At high levels, you can play both as melee and mage due exp points requirement going up exponentially.		you play as, but since you're powerleveling from get-go, don't worry about proficiencies. Do note that mage is fast, but has than less than half the survivability as melee at high difficulties until much later when choosing which to play when. You lack XP, AP and gear so it'd be better to focus on either melee or mage, but they both have their advantages. At high levels, you can play both as melee and mage due exp points requirement going up exponentially.

Lement: /* Low levels */

2012-10-26T18:33:59Z

Low levels

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	For Chaos tokens that you get, create unnamed monsters one by one and assign to them only the crystals that naturally drop - you don't want to spend credits on them at this point in time.		For Chaos tokens that you get, create unnamed monsters one by one and assign to them only the crystals that naturally drop - you don't want to spend credits on them at this point in time.

	'''Abilities''''		'''Abilities'''

	For assigning Ability points: Both mage and melee should grab Haste, Shadow Veil, all the item slots, all the aura slots, focused aura, Cure, regen, scroll slots, X-item and X-attack. Both could use 5 AP in weaken at times, which is all or nothing but reduces incoming damage from the monster by over 50% when maxed, is fast and is cheapest debuff too. Then comes their type-specific abilities and then both should also max their MP tanks after that, and have about 5 maxed HP tanks.		For assigning Ability points: Both mage and melee should grab Haste, Shadow Veil, all the item slots, all the aura slots, focused aura, Cure, regen, scroll slots, X-item and X-attack. Both could use 5 AP in weaken at times, which is all or nothing but reduces incoming damage from the monster by over 50% when maxed, is fast and is cheapest debuff too. Then comes their type-specific abilities and then both should also max their MP tanks after that, and have about 5 maxed HP tanks.
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	Start a fight in Ring of Blood against Flying spaghetti monster or Invisible Pink Unicorn - first is 2 times beefier. Cast Haste, use scroll of life(in case FSM starts with 25%+ MP/close to max SP bar), use scroll of swiftness, cast slow on the monster, use shadow veil, hit monster 3-5 times, use shield bash. Make sure you don't die in those first turns. Now, make sure FSM always has slow on, you always have haste and most turns haste and scroll of swiftness on. This way you can hit opponent with Shield Bash again(cooldown of 10 turns) before Stunned on him expires(5 turns), allowing you to permanently stun him. Keep this up, this takes long time, and do it for both of them(make sure you're not out of supplies in-between of the battles).		Start a fight in Ring of Blood against Flying spaghetti monster or Invisible Pink Unicorn - first is 2 times beefier. Cast Haste, use scroll of life(in case FSM starts with 25%+ MP/close to max SP bar), use scroll of swiftness, cast slow on the monster, use shadow veil, hit monster 3-5 times, use shield bash. Make sure you don't die in those first turns. Now, make sure FSM always has slow on, you always have haste and most turns haste and scroll of swiftness on. This way you can hit opponent with Shield Bash again(cooldown of 10 turns) before Stunned on him expires(5 turns), allowing you to permanently stun him. Keep this up, this takes long time, and do it for both of them(make sure you're not out of supplies in-between of the battles).
	If you spirit stance there's a good chance you'll run below 35 overcharge(since it consumes 10 first, then uses skill) at wrong moment and die.		If you spirit stance there's a good chance you'll run below 35 overcharge(since it consumes 10 first, then uses skill) at wrong moment and die.
			This strategy is slow, but will net you the win. You'll stop using once you have 'Silence', or even 'Spirit Shield' with lots of spirit points, good Holy mage gear is a plus oto.

	The trophies are worth more than what they sell for, but are like lottery tickets-bad investment most of the time. For equips, choose 2h if melee, staff if mage.NEVER spend it on cloth or light armor since you need tier 3(phase,shade) or 2(kevlar, gossamer) to get something good from them, and those drop from trohpies at 2% and 5% rate, respectively. You also now have 300k credits plus whatever you got so far, which you can spend partly on improving your gear, partly on trainings - and you should probably spend more of it on trainings than gear.		The trophies are worth more than what they sell for, but are like lottery tickets-bad investment most of the time. For equips, choose 2h if melee, staff if mage.NEVER spend it on cloth or light armor since you need tier 3(phase,shade) or 2(kevlar, gossamer) to get something good from them, and those drop from trohpies at 2% and 5% rate, respectively. You also now have 300k credits plus whatever you got so far, which you can spend partly on improving your gear, partly on trainings - and you should probably spend more of it on trainings than gear.
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	====Browser====		====Browser====
	It is recommended to not use Firefox or Internet explorer for playing Hentaiverse, since their time taken to load a page is much higher than chrome, iron, coolnovo, comodo or opera( which is kind of oddball - it has aggressive caching which helps for speed but not so good script support - and scripts help a lot in HV for speed). There are hotkey (re)assignment, No victory popup, battle log highlighting, remaining turn durations on status effects, tracking your drops and displaying gems as images on your attack pane scripts to mention more useful ones, as well as Random encounter reminder should you be in HV at the time. Beware, though - every script you add slows down the loading time for all the scripts. I personally recommend iron and HentaiVerse Minor Additions/No victory popup scripts for melees and first HVMA, then only gem icon plus no victory popup for mages. HVStat has functions that HVMA doesn't have, such as displaying skill button and tracking drops, but is far slower in loading.		It is recommended to not use Firefox or Internet explorer for playing Hentaiverse, since their time taken to load a page is much higher than chrome, iron, coolnovo, comodo or opera( which is kind of oddball - it has aggressive caching which helps for speed but not so good script support - and scripts help a lot in HV for speed). There are hotkey (re)assignment, No victory popup, battle log highlighting, remaining turn durations on status effects, tracking your drops and displaying gems as images on your attack pane scripts to mention more useful ones, as well as Random encounter reminder should you be in HV at the time. Beware, though - every script you add slows down the loading time for all the scripts. I personally recommend iron and HentaiVerse Minor Additions/No victory popup scripts for melees and first HVMA, then only gem icon plus no victory popup for mages. HVStat has functions that HVMA doesn't have, such as displaying skill button and tracking drops, but is far slower in loading.

	== My Monster Lab monsters: ==		== My Monster Lab monsters: ==

Lement at 18:32, 26 October 2012

2012-10-26T18:32:26Z

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Lement at 00:21, 24 October 2012

2012-10-24T00:21:37Z

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	10 25 Reptile Snake of Eden		10 25 Reptile Snake of Eden

			== tl; dr ==
			4 thoz 'ho dotn liek 2 read abut text game.

			==== invest ====
			ML-> all chaos tokens into monster creation, as many level 25s as you can until it takes 340k to upgrade scavenger/archeologist/quartermaster/luck of the draw.
			Scavenger/archeologist/quartermaster/luck of the draw->up to 180k, then Crystarium I, then up to 200k, then Innate Arcana I, then invest in them &ML equally

			==== low levels ====

			WTS section on forums->get free gear.

			Do hourly battles(main page every hour instead of ad) every hour on IWBTH, after that train adept learner.

			Assign haste, shadow veil, cure, regen, weaken,everything on the right, 2 tiers of elemental spells or protection & spirit and OC points depending on whether melee or mage, MP tanks, 5 HP tanks, EXP tanks.

			Assign stats with focus on damage-dealing type stats for your build, but no more than 20 point difference between lowest and highest.

			Do this until 100, reset your APs, grab scroll of swiftness, scroll of life, equip ethereal 1h and Battlecaster shield, keep Flying spaghetti monster and Invisible Pink Unicorn stunned and kill them on normal. Use resulting money to buy gear/train trainings.

			Get your profs up, use only 1 weapon category/armor category.
			Do IWs for mage, wait until 150 at least for melee.
			Switch to estoc at 170 for melee.

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2012-10-24T00:11:15Z

My Monster Lab monsters:

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	No PLVL Class		No PLVL Class

	1 36 Sprite Kenji Setou		1 36 Sprite Kenji Setou

Lement: /* Investments */

2012-10-24T00:06:49Z

Investments

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	Of course, killing speed wise Innate arcana(with item worlds, too) competes with above.		Of course, killing speed wise Innate arcana(with item worlds, too) competes with above.

	Monster Lab payoff post 0.71: To bring a monster to level 25 it is relatively quick, costing about 4500 C with cheap elemental crystals and paying off in 8 and half days. However, additional upgrades to this take longer; just raising to 50 takes half a year to pay off, but the payoff time isn't always increasing; for 350 to 450 it stays about the same, for 550 it is faster than for 400(just shy of a year). Since rare materials chance stay the same more chances is pretty much what you need for those, and that increases payoff speed just by a little bit.		'''Monster Lab''' payoff post 0.71: To bring a monster to level 25 it is relatively quick, costing about 4500 C with cheap elemental crystals and paying off in 8 and half days. However, additional upgrades to this take longer; just raising to 50 takes half a year to pay off, but the payoff time isn't always increasing; for 350 to 450 it stays about the same, for 550 it is faster than for 400(just shy of a year). Since rare materials chance stay the same more chances is pretty much what you need for those, and that increases payoff speed just by a little bit.

	'''Scavenger''' payoff: Depends on how much you play, really, but falling above no Crystarium and below Crystarium I makes things simple. With halfway between them it isn't that hard to assume average round giving 50 credits in drops(although crudes are only worth 20C some pieces may sell for hundreds in the bazaar if not worth selling to players and artifacts are worth 18k a piece)[IWBTH obviously gives far better drops]. Running through 20 stamina that gives you 2000 rounds for 100k relative credits, most of which is probably from artifacts/blood tokens, but fair share is from equips. Now that one has a figure, it is easy to figure that increasing drops by 2% gives roughly 2k more per day(it will drop if you train only scavenger, but that's what the other trainings are for).		'''Scavenger''' payoff: Depends on how much you play, really, but falling above no Crystarium and below Crystarium I makes things simple. With halfway between them it isn't that hard to assume average round giving 50 credits in drops(although crudes are only worth 20C some pieces may sell for hundreds in the bazaar if not worth selling to players and artifacts are worth 18k a piece)[IWBTH obviously gives far better drops]. Running through 20 stamina that gives you 2000 rounds for 100k relative credits, most of which is probably from artifacts/blood tokens, but fair share is from equips. Now that one has a figure, it is easy to figure that increasing drops by 2% gives roughly 2k more per day(it will drop if you train only scavenger, but that's what the other trainings are for).

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2012-10-24T00:06:20Z

Investments

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	However, what about '''Crystarium I'''? Well, it has a special place since you can straight long-term reinvest the crystals(which you may have trouble selling otherwise), but assuming it gives you 25% increase in wealth accumulation it isn't too hard to figure it out - however, this is muddled by crysfest consuming stamina at half the normal rate and gipping your credits in luck of the draw/quartermaster. I would carefully place it's payoff value at around 3 months, though it is half that if you spend more in crysfest, less than that if you're spending your games on IWBTH/BT for drops, and one has to consider the lost revenue from LOTD/Quartermaster for actual payoff values, since that figure puts those at 0.		However, what about '''Crystarium I'''? Well, it has a special place since you can straight long-term reinvest the crystals(which you may have trouble selling otherwise), but assuming it gives you 25% increase in wealth accumulation it isn't too hard to figure it out - however, this is muddled by crysfest consuming stamina at half the normal rate and gipping your credits in luck of the draw/quartermaster. I would carefully place it's payoff value at around 3 months, though it is half that if you spend more in crysfest, less than that if you're spending your games on IWBTH/BT for drops, and one has to consider the lost revenue from LOTD/Quartermaster for actual payoff values, since that figure puts those at 0.

	As for '''Innate arcana''', it is truly useful in MP conversation and saving the turns you take: Alt+nr+cast takes about 3 times as long as you spend for a single turn. For every 60 turns of ~~debuffs~~, that's additional 5% slowdown. Further IA reduce your MP usage, meaning you have to use MP pots far less often, allowing you to go longer in 'fest, getting more max bonus. Finally, not having it own really hurts mages in random encounters, and melees too by quite a bit due the high cast times of spells such as protection/regen. Going by that, effectively used IA will effectively pay off in about 3.5 to 4,5 months, depending on how you play.		As for '''Innate arcana''', it is truly useful in MP conversation and saving the turns you take: Alt+nr+cast takes about 3 times as long as you spend for a single turn. For every 60 turns of buffs, that's additional 5% slowdown. Further IA reduce your MP usage, meaning you have to use MP pots far less often, allowing you to go longer in 'fest, getting more max bonus. Finally, not having it own really hurts mages in random encounters, and melees too by quite a bit due the high cast times of spells such as protection/regen. Going by that, effectively used IA will effectively pay off in about 3.5 to 4,5 months, depending on how you play.

	=== Low levels ===		=== Low levels ===